Friday afternoon, Americans Against Immigration Amnesty (AAIA– a right-wing group from Utah) and the Pima County Tea Party Patriots held a Dump Dupnik Rally in front of the Sheriff’s Office.
Not to be outdone, supporters of Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik held a counter rally at the same location.
Depending upon which Arizona Daily Star article you read, either 200 or 350 people attended the rallies. (My guesstimate is about 200.) The group was pretty much evenly split between supporters and detractors of the sheriff.
Although the Star continues to report that the Dupnik recall effort is based his speech against hatred and vitriol at the press conference following the shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, I contend that it is all about his anti-SB1070 stance and that his heartfelt words about hatred in America are just an excuse for action. The primary backer of the recall effort is AAIA, the brainchild of a right-wing talk radio host in Utah, is an anti-illegal immigrant/pro-SB1070 group. Locally, the Pima County Tea Party Patriots and right-wing talk radio host Jon Justice– also SB1070 aficionados– are trying to fan the recall flames. If yesterday’s rally was any indication, Dupnik has plenty of supporters in Tucson.
There was no lack of opinions or creative signage at the dueling rallies. For a taste of the events, check out the video below.
[tnivideo caption=”Dump and Support Dupnik Rallies” credit=”Pamela Powers”]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlJu4xQBoA8[/tnivideo]
Gwen Ifill of PBS on her news show stated in no uncertain terms that Dupnick went over the line when he blamed the hate filled enviornment.
Jared Lougher is a sick, mentally ill person.
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So we should ignore the “hate filled environment?” Hate filled environments don’t encourage crazies to act? The lynchings of black folks in the old South had nothing to do with the environment? The dragging of a gay young man tied to a car had nothing to do with homophobia. Why don’t we work on our social problems rather than look for ways to ignore them? How in the world did a sheriff bring so much hate to himself just for speaking to our needs as a society? How did he become the problem?
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When he opened his mouth. Let me repeat this so you understand. Loughner is a twisted , sick person…. it has nothing to do with politics.
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Sick, just like Hinckley.
Hinckley stalked Carter, Reagan just became the target when Carter was defeated. Non political assassination attempt, just pure crazy.
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Pamela Powers, have you not learned yet it is impossible to speak with and try to reason with folks who hold hate signs? The man who called Dupnik “Dumb” is exactly the type of individual Dupnik was talking about. His nager ws very apparent and it’s sad he had to behave in such an uncivilized way, even calling out to those around him declaring his correct hateful attitude. I have been in similar situations and I’ve noticed most of the Tea Bag folk who hold hatred so dear are older white men and women. Perhaps we should once again talk about the racism within the Tea Bag movement that is always denied and thrown back at us as if we are the haters. racists and liars. Thanks for the report Pamela Powers and be careful out there.
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“Tea Bag movement”? “Tea Bag folk”? What happened to civility?
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What happened to civility? indeed
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Indeed, indeed.
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When I hear “teabag” comments I always think of Obama’s right hand man Reggie Love, who got drunk, passed out, and his “buddies” tea bagged him for real…..on film.
DOH!
makes me chuckle…
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Yes, I think that was apparent in the video. The hatred, vitriol, and lack of logic came out in the interviews on my video. What I didn’t capture was the Tea Partiers shouting at the pro-Dupnik crowd– trying to incite a confrontation. The pro side wasn’t dumb enough to do that.
Trek is right regarding the term Tea Bagger. When FOX News created the Tea Party with massive pre- and post-event media coverage of the April 15 tax day rally– I believe in 2009– the protesters called themselves Tea Baggers. They changed the label a few months later when they realized they had provided us on the left a big inside joke. 🙂 I attached an editorial from The Republic (or another similarly right wing magazine) to an early Tea Party stoory giving the history of the Tea Party’s origins. The author suggested that Tea Partiers embrace the Tea Bagger label as a sign of defiance and pride, as blacks have embraced the n word and gays have embraced queer.
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What percentage of the thousands of protestors would you guess actually called themselves “teabaggers”? A few percent perhaps? A very, very small minority. And does that make it acceptable for the left to call all Tea Partiers “teabaggers”? Is it acceptable for me to call black people “the n word” because many of them call themselves “the n word”?
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Gwen Ifill of PBS on her news show stated in no uncertain
And suddenly Gwen Ifill is an expert ?
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Not anymore than you are. But she understands that Jared Lougher is a sick nutjob and Dupnick spoke untruths.
Gwen Ifill spoke the truth. And she spoke it to the entire nation.
careful you don’t post too often. You may be accused of “overposting” and deleted by the bloggers??!!! LOL
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>Gwen Ifill spoke the truth
I didn’t see her but I think Dupnick spoke the truth and is much more expert on the atmosphere here in the mecca of bigotry and hatred than Ifill.
>careful you don’t post too often
I am banned from posting at all by “conservative” TC.com bloggers, who only want to hear themselves parroted.
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1. Jared Lougher is a nutjob. He had no political agenda. He didnt scream “I love Glen Beck and shoot!” Dupnick was wrong. Maybe he should spend more time fighting the entry of drugs into Pima County. But then you will not like that.
2. The Three Sonorans has thin skin. He doesnt want to hear anyone who comments opposing views.
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>1. Jared Lougher is a nutjob. He had no political agenda. He didnt scream “I love Glen Beck and shoot!”
He was a nutjob – true. He also seemed obsessed with whether or not things were “constitutional” and the government was mistreating him. And he lived in a town where such rhetoric was rife.
And Arizona IS the mecca of bigotry and hatred – Dupnik was right.
>2. The Three Sonorans has thin skin
If he has thin skin, then Fort Buckley and Cholla Jumps are transparent – they don’t allow opposing views at all.
Dupnick was wrong.
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#1 Sounds like an ACLU agitator, we all know they are obsessed with the Constitution, well at least most of it….
#2 I don’t think “The Cholla Jumps” is around anymore, and if Ft. Buckley cannot stand up to what I ‘ve seen you post he has no business blogging IMO.
I do not support censorship, do you Tip?
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As an ACLU member, let me politely say that I see much more of a resemblence to tea party rallies than ACLU legal writs.
>I do not support censorship, do you Tip
Nope and I have protested it in the past, to no avail
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Spin it how you will, but Loughners friends and his music teacher all paint him as left of center…
I know the truth is hard to take, but you can do it.
As far as you being censored goes, I do not support it and I will let it be known.
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>Spin it how you will, but Loughners friends and his music teacher all paint him as left of center
I don’t think he is sane enough to be classified as right or left, but that is irrelevant to Dupnik’s observation of Arizona’s bigotry and hate speech.
He didn’t single out “right” or “left” – the fact that it is the right wingers coming in defense of hatred just indicates a guilty conscience.
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“I don’t think he is sane enough to be classified as right or left”
Of course you don’t, since the evidence points towards his leaning left in his recent past.
But yet you still insist on trying to equate Loughners insane ramblings that mention the Constitution to those that would like to remind ALL of our politicians that the United States Constitution is still a very important document in this country.
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Dupnik did indeed state that in regards 1070 that even if the court upheld it that neither he nor his office would enforce the law. Last time I checked this was called selective enforcement and was in itself, illegal. Dupnik was elected as a law ENFORCEMENT officer, not a judge, not a legislator , but enforcement. What part of the term “law enforcement” does he have such a hard time understanding? As to his remarks following the shooting…he was speaking in his capacity as the head of the Pima County Sheriff, a county elected official. While Dupnik DOES have freedom of speach that right is his only when representing himself only. NOT when he is speaking as our representative.
Dupnik turns 74 this year and his mental capacity shows it. It is time for Dupnik to move aside and be replaced.
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Once someone starts to label or attack a messenger vs their message you have lost your credibility with me and most people.
Someone voted him in and I believe in the vote. We live by the outcomes of a vote for any and all politician until the next vote. If anyone want to use legal processes in place to challenge a standing politicians, go for it, that is your right as a citizen.
I invested 23 years in the military (active and reserve) to defend your rights, please do not make my sacrifice meaningless by resorting to name calling and mind numbing attacks.
How about voting next time based on a politician’s record and their future social and political agenda?
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I label the Tea Party as the Tea Bag folks for two reasons. Number one is that’s what they called themselves in the beginning, until they got scarred of what tea bagging meant in the underworld. They quickly distanced themselves from a supposed sexual act and now get offended when anyone refers to their original name. (Although they do not get offended when their members scream out the “N” word and spits on a distinguished African American politician).
Reason number two, they ran away from the idea of being associated with a sexual act and fight anyone who goes there, but they still refuse to acknowledge that racism runs rampant through their ranks and have yet to apologize for all their hatred and bigotry. So until they mature and learn civility, I will continue to call them the Tea Bag folk as a reminder of how they condone racism and hatred.
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trek wrote – “I label the Tea Party as the Tea Bag folks for two reasons. Number one is that’s what they called themselves in the beginning“
Oh, I see. The very small handful Tea Partiers who called themselves that in the beginning spoke for the entire Tea Party.
trek wrote – “So until they mature and learn civility, I will continue to call them the Tea Bag folk”
Until they mature and learn civility? Pot, Meet Kettle.
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John, has the Tea Party movement ever acknowledged or said “We are sorry” for the racists incidents that have happened and still do throughout the Tea Party membership? No, they have gone to extreme lengths to deny racism even exists inside their group. The opposition to Dupnik is another shinning example of their hate and racism. As the video proves. I have learned talking to folks who are hard core Tea Party members is to no avail. Hence you will get the last word on this and I’m sure it will not be an answer to the above question. I’m done. Go well.
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“has the Tea Party movement ever acknowledged or said “We are sorry” for the racists incidents that have happened and still do throughout the Tea Party membership? ”
Please back up these allegations with facts…
“No, they have gone to extreme lengths to deny racism even exists inside their group”
Well, if the incidents actually happened then you should be able to provide plenty of evidence.
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Here is the evidence. However, I know you will deny it still, even though the evidence includes photos and comments from respected congressional leaders. I’m done, go well
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us+canada-10636746
http://www.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=tea+party+racism&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=1StGTa_4HIu6sQP36NC1Cg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CD0QsAQwAg&biw=1790&bih=1001
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/20/tea-party-protests-nier-f_n_507116.html
http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2010/10/tea-party-racism.html
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Both Mark Evans and The 3s person can’t take criticism. Try using the register option.
Not automated as you would think by the text. The 3s guy deletes anything the disputes his claims to only leave what appears to by total positive comments.
I have registered under TheRebel in the past on the real Tucson citizen no problem.
Mark ignored at lest 3 tries from me, no email to confirm my reg.
He is protecting the 3s guy because he raises traffic here and morals be Da**
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Corrected post. Sorry.
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Both Mark Evans and the 3s person can’t take criticism. Try using the register option.
Not automated as you would think by the text. The 3s guy deletes anything that disputes his claims and only leaves positive comments.
I have registered under TheRebel in the past on the real Tucson citizen no problem.
Mark ignored at lest 3 tries from me, no email to confirm my reg.
He is protecting the 3s guy because he raises traffic here, Editor? Looks like morals be Da**
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Why did you choose the title: “Love/Hate Dupnik rallies”? I dislike the man, but I do not hate him. And I doubt most of his supporters love him.
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Brevity.
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In defending the use of Tea Bagger by Trek, I offer some links regarding the use of the term, since one person above said that Tea Bagger was not widely used. Here are some historical links from 2009 and early 2010– including the one from the National Review (which I referred to above).
National Review editorial– Origins of an Epithet
http://nrd.nationalreview.com/article/?q=Mjk1YmRjNzIxNmUwMTI0ZWYxZWU4OWU2MzFiOWJmNDE=
Rachel Maddow on Tea Bagger vs Tea Partier.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/is-teabagger-an-epithet-rachel-maddow-teaches-a-tea-party-history-lesson/
A few old stories of mine on the corporate backers of the Tea Party.
http://tucsoncitizen.com/tucson-progressive/2010/02/23/tea-partiers-show-us-the-money/
http://tucsoncitizen.com/tucson-progressive/2010/02/22/disgusted-its-time-to-organize/
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